Legislature(2003 - 2004)

05/16/2003 07:48 AM House FSH

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HJR 25-COMMERCIAL FISHING & PROCESSOR SHARES                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 2644                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE JOINT  RESOLUTION NO.  25, Supporting  Alaska's independent                                                               
commercial fishermen  and Alaska's  fish processing  industry and                                                               
opposing the establishment of processor quota shares.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 2672                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  OGG   moved  to  adopt  the   proposed  committee                                                               
substitute  (CS), Version  23-LS0996\H,  Utermohle, 5/15/03,  for                                                               
discussion purposes.   [No  objection was  stated, and  Version H                                                               
was treated as adopted.]                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE OGG  offered [Conceptual  Amendment 1] on  page 2,                                                               
line 8, after the word "shares"  to add in the language, "for the                                                               
Bering Sea  and Aleutian Islands  crab fishery".  There  being no                                                               
objection, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON noted that the changes  made to HJR 25 recognize the                                                               
decisions  and  work of  the  [North  Pacific Fishery  Management                                                               
Council (NPFMC)]  to rationalize the  crab fishery in  the Bering                                                               
Sea.   He noted that  the change  in the title  occurs throughout                                                               
the resolution.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 2791                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS  KNIGHT, Staff  to Representative  Paul  Seaton, said  that                                                               
most of the  first page, other than  the title was the  same.  He                                                               
continued that  on page 2,  line 7, "unfathomable"  was included.                                                               
He  said that  any  "opposition or  opposing"  language had  been                                                               
removed  and  that  the  committee's  support  of  the  [NPFMC's]                                                               
interest in rationalizing the fishery had also been included.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON said that the  rationalization of the fishery wasn't                                                               
the problem;  it's the inclusion  of this section  of "processor-                                                               
quota   shares",  which   would  distort   the  balance   between                                                               
commercial fishermen  and processors and introduce  a new element                                                               
that would be non-competitive in  the future.  This would prevent                                                               
any  future processors  from becoming  involved.   The resolution                                                               
addresses that  element of  the plan  - that  the processor-quota                                                               
share fixes  things so that  only certain processors  can forever                                                               
buy crab and that the fishermen  would have to deliver to certain                                                               
people -  that would have  ramifications throughout  the industry                                                               
and  could  have  tremendous ramifications  for  coastal  Alaskan                                                               
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KNIGHT  added  that  the   attempt  was  to  tone  down  the                                                               
oppositional language to say, "We  support what you're doing, but                                                               
consider this one aspect."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WILSON said,  "Because there  is controversy  and                                                               
because we are saying that the  whole state feels this way and it                                                               
is wrong, I have a problem [with it]."  [Tape ends.]                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 03-29, SIDE B                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KNIGHT said  the  language, which  was  fairly general,  was                                                               
inclusive of both groups, and  didn't indicate that one group was                                                               
better than another.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 2928                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SAMUELS said  that  although  he appreciates  the                                                               
change in  tone and the  work that has gone  into HJR 25,  he has                                                               
the same  concerns as  Representative Wilson's.   He said  if the                                                               
[federal government]  is being asked  to look at  processor quota                                                               
shares,  the  request  should  be   to  look  at  the  whole  IFQ                                                               
[individual  fishery  quota]  system.   He  said  that  a  public                                                               
resource has  been walled-up  so it's difficult  to get  into the                                                               
fishery  to begin  with.   He mentioned  that fishermen  have the                                                               
difficulty of  being stuck selling to  the one area and  that the                                                               
argument for  fishermen "still  cuts both ways."   He  said, "The                                                               
fishermen don't want  to be locked in, but [they]  have locked us                                                               
out.   It's  a philosophical  argument."   Representative Samuels                                                               
said  he didn't  have  an ax  to  grind one  way  or another  and                                                               
wouldn't object to [the resolution] going out of committee.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 2845                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE OGG  said that HJR  25 was now more  effective due                                                               
to the focus  being on the particular instead of  the global, the                                                               
positive  aspect  of  the  new  language,  and  the  emphasis  on                                                               
reconsideration.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 2808                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  OGG  moved  to   report  CSHJR  25,  Version  23-                                                               
LS0996\H, Utermohle,  5/15/03, as amended, out  of committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations  and  the [accompanying  zero  fiscal                                                               
note].                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 2780                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON objected.   She said although  the tone was                                                               
better, she thought it would be better to wait until next year.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:45 a.m. to 8:46 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE OGG withdrew his motion.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON announced that HJR 25 would be held over.                                                                          

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